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austinrob

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I've been looking, and aside from a few Khz in 15m 20m 40m and 80m, I don't see what extra allows you to do beyond general.

It doubles your freq availability in 80m, and I'm tempted to test for extra just because of that, but I can't get enough altitude on my antenna (HOA) to have a good 80m setup.  So I operate mostly on 40m (extra gets me 25K on digi modes and 50K phone) and on 20m (an extra 25K and 75K).  I'm not set up for 15 yet, though I'm thinking of building a multiband vertical for 15m & 30m (same size gains in 30m as in 20m).

So it is just lid avoidance in those frequencies, or is there something I'm not aware of or not remembering.

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A little more bandwidth and bragging rights :D. I am studying now to upgrade from my general to keep my friends from busting my chops  8)

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I look at it as a great way into every band

This may be a point of contention with some, but its also a ticket punch. I work in a system where it doesnt matter what you know, its what you can prove you know. As an extra, I can explain the way things work, and I can show I actually know what Im talking about.

It also gets me listened too when I talk about mods for radios and other issues which apparently have not been considered by our so called "experts" who really dont have the first clue about what they are doing, especially in a DF problem. I work with a pile of drooling idiots.

And thats why I want my Extra call sign, I know what Im doing, I just have to get the "official ticket punch"

Another advantage, you tend to get treated a little better , at least locally by other HAMs when you talk to them. Apparently Extra is not as common in reality as in the boards here. So, an Extra call sign when meeting other HAMs, especially those who are club affiliated makes a difference. I was asked who I studied with and what club I was a member of when I tested for General. It was a surprise for them to find I did it myself. Extra will just compound that.

My local club is not the most friendly to new members, but I think thats a rarity and not common in the community. The groups doing testing in Tucson were very friendly when I was there.
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I agree with PLA, but the key is that it's another step in the learning process, you don't want to try and figure this stuff out after something happens. It's a hobby, I find it interesting so I keep going, and keep doing projects.
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Yeah, I have my general ticket.  Contemplating my extra.  decided to go ahead and get a vanity call though now.  Figure a call ending with "WTF" might break through some pileups just for curiosity sake.   If I test for extra, I'll look into a 1x2 or a 2x1 call, but for now I'm just trying to stay active on the air.

(hard to stay motivated sometimes when you can't buy a bunch of new equipment or build new antennas, and you have an S7 noise floor)

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Yeah, I have my general ticket.  Contemplating my extra.  decided to go ahead and get a vanity call though now.  Figure a call ending with "WTF" might break through some pileups just for curiosity sake.   If I test for extra, I'll look into a 1x2 or a 2x1 call, but for now I'm just trying to stay active on the air.

(hard to stay motivated sometimes when you can't buy a bunch of new equipment or build new antennas, and you have an S7 noise floor)

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Right now it's a Kenwood TS-430 (mid-80's model) with a BHI ANEM inline with the audio to try to eliminate some of the noise.  I built an offcenter fed dipole (windom) similar to the one listed at http://rogertango.com/articleread.aspx?idnumber=64229534

I'm not sure if the noise is the lack of IF DSP on the rig, or just my neighborhood.  I'm limited to lower profile antennas because of an HOA.  (moved here before I got into HAM)  I'm contemplating building a vertical for 20m or 30m, but I won't be able to do many radials.  I've modeled an elevated 1/4wave with 2 downward sloping radials.  It will be omnidirectional, not incredibly efficient, but resonant, and relatively invisible (single 14ga wire up into the trees with radials on the fenceline.

I'm contemplating new gear, it's just hard to spend that kind of cash.  Looking at the IC-7000 with it's good IF DSP reviews. Also good for mobile use on 2m/70cm.  I'd use it 2m/70cm in the car mostly and HF in the house.

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The 7000 is my backup rig, great little radio. There have been many days lately where s7 noise floor is normal, but you should also be able to filter out of some of that.
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